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I recently got an from a viewer shopping for a sub-compact tractor. He said he wants a cab, he’s going to be using it to brush hog and clear timber, and he also wants a 5′ cutter. He asked me what brand I’d recommend. And I had the feeling that he could well be making all five mistakes that new tractor purchasers can make.
I actually get a lot of from readers asking for buying advice. New tractor buyers need to get up to speed on what to buy and the best way to go about that. (You might want to take a look at my Insider’s Guide to Purchasing a Tractor). But let’s take a quick look at the questions this reader asked, and how to address them.
First of all, a lot of folks are shopping for a tractor that’s actually too small for their needs. Sub-compacts are great for small acreages and tight quarters, but if you’re trying to brush hog a big field, you’ll be on the tractor a long, and probably uncomfortable, time. And I’m not even aware of sub-compacts with cabs. Plus, if you did find one, you’d see that a cab air conditioner takes 5-10 horsepower to run. On a small tractor, that doesn’t leave enough power to work with. (You could run out of power on a hill, for example.) You’ll want at least a 28-40 HP tractor, and the higher the better, if you really want to have a cab. So buy as large a tractor as you can.
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Second, you need to be careful where you take a cab tractor. If you’re brush hogging a big field in the summer, cabs are great. But cabs and woodlands don’t go together: hit a low limb and you can have an expensive disaster quickly. Cab glass is expensive to repair, and it doesn’t take much of a tap from a limb to blast a glass out. You won’t forget the first time you do that because of the explosive sound it makes. If you have to work with a cab tractor in the woods, please invest in a pole saw or tree shear and prune the lower limbs before going there.
Third, be sure to match your tractor with the right cutter. A 5′ cutter is too much for a sub-compact tractor. Generally, on small tractors, you want the cutter to be the same width as the loader bucket. If the tractor has a 4′ bucket, you’ll want a 4′ bush hog, a 5′ bucket gets a 5′ cutter, etc. Also, match the size of the cutter to both the horsepower of the tractor and the size of material you want to cut. Every brush hog will tell what size material it’s rated for, and how much PTO horsepower is required to pull it. Don’t get too light a cutter to cut your brush, or too little PTO horsepower to pull it.
Fourth, it’s really hard to compare brands of cutters. Most of the major companies make an economy cutter that cuts up to 1″ material, a mid-range cutter that cuts up to 2″, and a heavy cutter that may cut 2 1/2″ or 3″ trees. If you compare one manufacturer’s economy cutter to another’s mid-grade cutter, you might think the latter makes better products. But that would be comparing apples to oranges. Bottom line is to find a good dealer that you get along with and that you trust, and have them help you spec a cutter. Buy the brand that they’re selling.
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You could consider this Kubota L47 with 516 hours and $42K which is built for what you are going to do in the woods - these are tough machines and you can add a cab if you need to. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item//?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp:412b3e4b-efcb-4a3b--6eaf8a288bd5That looks very solid. Didn't realize that Kubota specifically made more construction grade tractors.
Can't you just make brush piles and burn them, rather than using a wood chipper?My home lot is pretty small and essentially all either grass or covered in tree trunks/gardens/hardscaped areas. Those trees drop so many big branches that I'm thinking I need a decent sized chipper either way. At the lake site, burning would be possible. Welcome to TBN!
That looks very solid. Didn't realize that Kubota specifically made more construction grade tractors.
In a couple weeks is when I'm going to make the purchasing decision. Have only been looking at new machines so would look at the "how to" of financing a used machine and what the APR is.
My home lot is pretty small and essentially all either grass or covered in tree trunks/gardens/hardscaped areas. Those trees drop so many big branches that I'm thinking I need a decent sized chipper either way. At the lake site, burning would be possible.
With taxes, that comes out to just over $60k.Ya. Unfortunately Maine seems to charge taxes. There's a dealer with both ME and NH locations who quotes monthly prices. Looking at the same item starting price, the monthly payment for the ME one is greater by exactly how much the tax would impact the initially financed amount. Also stopped today at a John Deere dealership and the sales person had said how taxes are calculated into the initial cost. I had looked previously and there are some exceptions if you have something like $400,000 dollars in gross agricultural income per year.
Check on that, most states. zero sales tax on agricultural equipment.
Welcome to TBN!Thanks Rustyiron. It would be in Southern Maine. I bet we're pretty close as I'm just outside of Standish and see in your signature you're from the Lakes Region. Zero machinery background. Drove a forklift years ago as a small part of my job.
What area of the state is this project?
Do you have any clearing and machinery background?
I'd find a week of time and rent a 6- 10 ton mini excavator to see what you project looks like and what you're up against as far as the soil and rock ratio. Usually 3 days of rental gets you a week. (40 hrs)
Pushing trees over (whole) combined with a little digging around it is the best way to go. Take advantage of the leverage and weight of the tree to pull the stump.
My little part of Maine it's about 3 rock to 1 dirt.
I might be able to steer you to a rental outfit with a general location.
Once he has his route staked/painted out, he will have a much better idea of what obstacles need to be removed. I would recommend at that point, some pictures and post it here. Believe it or not, there are some knowledgeable folks here (as well as some very confident fools..., so do your do diligence).Definitely seeing there are knowledgeable folks on this forum! It would likely be in April when I get out to the property to take any photos/figure out a route. At that point I'll probably have a tractor and be inquiring if it's worth bringing it out there or not.
It's the Kubota TLB Series - Tractor - Loader - Backhoe - Specifically made for construction and commercial use with a very rugged frame and underframe protection - these machines are pretty indestructible in most applications. For the rocks and rough ground we have in NE it's one of the best. The only other smaller TLB is the older John Deere 110 Machine. You can get close to this with the Yanmar YT359 with a BH but no other machines are close in this price range ($42K for a 500 hr machine)It looks like a beast and the price is right. My only concern is used and seeing how I've never had a tractor before, wouldn't be totally comfortable looking at the wear points. That being said, am going to keep it in mind well looking at all the options. Much appreciated Having stopped at the local JD dealership today to get a better understanding of the physical size of tractors based on weights, totally can understand why it's likely not the right tool for the job. Around me the brands are well represented and I can look at several models for each. There are some recommended brands (either here or on youtube) that aren't around me which reduces the possibilities.