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I built a 10 acre lake last year and I've built a four acre pond for my daughter. On the 10 acre a 12 yard scraper hauled 80-85% of the dirt. On the four acre the scraper hauled at least 90 % of the dirt. A scraper will be able to strike off and finish the damn; it'll just take a little longer to finish. If you don't get it to really wet stuff, the scraper will also be able to core the damn.
I have 180 and 215 PTO HP tractors. Either will pull 12-13 yard scrapers of some brands. With the dry conditions a year ago, we had some 15' cuts where we had good moisture and clay. In a place or two, we went 10' deep without hitting moist clay.
You can buy a new or used scraper for a less money than it would take to buy a good dozer. When you get done with the pond the scraper should still be worth what you paid for it, or close to it. You might decide to keep the scraper for drainage or terrace work. Not having a motor, hydrualic system or tranny makes the scraper a safer investment to move dirt. Having said that, I do have a dozer and excavator.
Although a scraper is my first choice, my second choice if I was to have only one machine, would be a big track loader. A 160-180 size will move a lot of dirt. A 180 HP will take out trees faster than my 32 ton excavator and carry them to the pile.
Edited by Stacy 11/23/ 07:08
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A guy is looking to have a farm pond quoted and completed. Though I have done a few nice ponds, I would not say I am a pond expert. Rough sizing on this one will be about 1/2 acre and probably 12-15ft deep. This will depend on the water table and geology in the ground.
Personally, I think the majority of this pond can get done quickly with my D7 dozer but I have never done a pond with it, and not a clue how to assess the cycle rates for it. The excavator has a 4ft bucket and a little over 2yd. It can move dirt in a hurry but limited on how far I can move material.
Customer just wants "a hole" and not too worried about where spoil dirt goes. Which just means it will stay near the pond so trucking the material would not be needed.
Off the cuff, I have estimated about 50hrs of hard running with the excavator. Soils will all be silt loams and clays. Basically all easy digging. Curious what you guys think? Dozing rates?
I prefer more aggressive bank slopes which is a bit too much for a dozer so I would still need the excavator to shape it. It would be nice to eliminate one piece from the jobsite but I know it is nice to have backup if something happens.
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