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Cry once when you buy it or save money and cry every time you have to use it.....
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I'm in line with this 100% and when I first saw this tool I thought it was crazy to try and use a lathe tool on the wrong corner for milling on a B-port. Seems all wrong.
At this time a coated CNMG-432 went for 4-5 dollars, why try to save it for another use?
Then one of my customers wanted one from the catalog so I got a freebie from the brand name I was a rep for,..... and to my amazement the darn thing worked....
It's not the best milling cutter, it likes steel not Al, won't do 90 walls, lock pins wear or you round out the hex and need to be replaced, but makes a good addition to the family and can really take a beating.
If I want to make a lot of steel chips fast and deep on a manual machine right at the edge of stalling the spindle I'm putting this in over any APKT or SEKN. (your mileage may vary)
I don't think it the cutter of choice for a cnc application.
Here is a great place to find other choices in good face milling cutters at a reasonable price.
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Look for number of inserts in the cutter when buying smaller face mills. Two plus to three inch is sort of the min due to the way they are made.
It's called tooth density. One inch indexables are not so great.
For a face mill you want clear swing on both sides of the part so add this in.
On 2 inch wide stock I'd want a min of 3 and better a 4 inch cutter.
Bob
(Just two cents or less from the peanut gallery from someone still confused after so many years about how this all works and what is best... I am not an expert or to be trusted)
I'm in line with this 100% and when I first saw this tool I thought it was crazy to try and use a lathe tool on the wrong corner for milling on a B-port. Seems all wrong.At this time a coated CNMG-432 went for 4-5 dollars, why try to save it for another use?Then one of my customers wanted one from the catalog so I got a freebie from the brand name I was a rep for,..... and to my amazement the darn thing worked....It's not the best milling cutter, it likes steel not Al, won't do 90 walls, lock pins wear or you round out the hex and need to be replaced, but makes a good addition to the family and can really take a beating.If I want to make a lot of steel chips fast and deep on a manual machine right at the edge of stalling the spindle I'm putting this in over any APKT or SEKN. (your mileage may vary)I don't think it the cutter of choice for a cnc application.Here is a great place to find other choices in good face milling cutters at a reasonable price.Look for number of inserts in the cutter when buying smaller face mills. Two plus to three inch is sort of the min due to the way they are made.It's called tooth density. One inch indexables are not so great.For a face mill you want clear swing on both sides of the part so add this in.On 2 inch wide stock I'd want a min of 3 and better a 4 inch cutter.Bob(Just two cents or less from the peanut gallery from someone still confused after so many years about how this all works and what is best... I am not an expert or to be trusted)
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If you're cool with using it as an R8 tool, I'd also recommend going with the integrated shank. Seems that it's better in almost every way.
One caveat though, if you might change to a machine that doesn't have or use an R8 taper, you might regret buying the integrated shank. I have an integrated-shank Glacern facemill (or maybe it's Maritool). It seemed to be fine, but when I started using TTS tooling I basically set it aside, never to be used again. Now that I have a new machine, with a BT-30 taper, it continues to sit unused. If I had bought a non-integrated facemill originally I could have, conceivably, continued to use it with a TTS tool holder, and I could have kept using it up to today with the newer machine. Of course, new machines might warrant new tooling anyway, making any preparation moot.
It's a tough call, but if you aren't going to use anything other than R8, the integrated shank is prolly the best way to go.
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